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Topic: SS northern lights #5 x Haze grow diary
Posted By: abbmacher
Subject: SS northern lights #5 x Haze grow diary
Date Posted: 23 October 2012 at 15:31
Seed received,
germinated in tissue in 15 hours
will be potted tonight.

Pictures to follow..



Replies:
Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 24 October 2012 at 13:15
Many thanks Sensi, I received my 3 feminised NL #5 only a few days after ordering them. I was very impressed with the packaging, looks well snazzy!

I have a slight dilemma due to the size these things can grow too. I have two phases of my lasts White Russian still in the 12/12 room. 2 plants will be coming out in about 20 days, that will leave 2 more still in there for there last 30 from that point.

My thinking was germinate now, and have some young NL ready to go in in 20 days when the 2 finished are ready to come out. Then it will be a case of juggling the last two and the NL (as it grows) for 30 days till the last of the WR comes out.

I germinated 2 of them in my grow room. It sits about 29c quite constantly. I did the wet paper towel and two plates trick. Too my pleasant shock, the root was a few mm out after only 17 hours in there.
I moved then to small pots containing a bat-mix based soil. I was hoping too see some plant penetration today, alas, no such luck.





Does any one have an idea of the growth rate of the NL#5 within its first 30 days of 12/12. My WR should be about 90cm when the NL goes in. I would think the NL will be about 10-15cm at the switch over point.


Posted By: alsc
Date Posted: 24 October 2012 at 14:57
hey man,

nice choice!
you got NL #5 x Haze and not just NL #5! and that is quite different.
as the description states, these are opposite strain.
but from the grows i saw on the net (i haven't grown this strain myself), you can expect a big stretch in flowering as this strain leans a lot towards its sativa-haze heritage.
do some research, but if i were you i would flower these plants very young.
as young as 7-15 days maybe...
i suggest you change the topic with the right strain name btw.
:-)

best,
al.


Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 24 October 2012 at 18:00
Hi Alsc,
Thanks for dropping by. Any ideas on how too change the topic?


Posted By: organicgrow
Date Posted: 24 October 2012 at 18:53
Originally posted by abbmacher

Hi Alsc,
Thanks for dropping by. Any ideas on how too change the topic?


Hi,

You'll need to edit the first post to change the thread title


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Posted By: nl5xhaze
Date Posted: 26 October 2012 at 10:15
Growing one of these babies myself.

There is a thread in the same forum as this with a couple of pics.

I popped her into flower when she was only small, not ten inches and she's now 32 inches tall, she's in a tent on a Wilma recirculating system and she could get taller but she's putting all her effort into flower production now though there was a time when she was growing an inch or two a day I thought I might have to top her.

This is my first go though so a more skilled grower would have put her through the learning curve stress I did but I'm still happy with her and the few small select folks who's seen her says she's lovely.

Good luck with her, I'm sure you'll have a very rewarding time with her!

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Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 29 October 2012 at 13:32
Hi nl5xhaze, thanks for dropping by. How long did you veg the ladies for and how long have they been in 12/12? have they stopped stretching now?

Mine have just popped through the soil....

Happy daze.....


Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 29 October 2012 at 13:40
Here are the new NL#5xhaze, just popped through the soil 2 days ago. So far all looks good.






Below is where they will be heading once the two White Russian ladies, on the left and right come down in about 10 days.

I hope there will be enough room as the other 2 WR need about a month to finish flowering.
Not sure about the growth rate of these NL plants in the first month of flowering.



Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 31 October 2012 at 11:19
Does anyone have any firm ideas on how early can a seedling be topped?
I want top the NL#5xH but dot want to resist stunting or hurting them. At the same time, I would like to get it done as soon as possible.
Can any one help? Would I be foolish too top then as soon as the 2nd set of leaves appear?   


Posted By: Ganja
Date Posted: 31 October 2012 at 11:39
I'd wait a little longer. Maybe after the 3rd or 4th pair of true leaves. Topping shouldn't hurt them at this stage (if done very carefully), but one doesn't necessarily want to split the plant's main stem so close to the ground, especially a tall, heavy strain like NL#5xHaze.

It depends what's going to happen the plants - are they becoming mother plants? Will they be flowered? If so, at what size are they likely to finish?

If seedlings are going to become medium-to-large plants (flowering or mothers) , then it's usually better to make the first stem division  a little higher on the plant, rather than right at the base.


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Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 31 October 2012 at 13:11
Many thanks Ganja, I appreciate you r prompt advice. I will leave them well alone until I have a few more sets of leaves.
Just a quick question. On my other flowering plants, I have what looks like and tastes like salt forming on some of the top fan leaves.
I have read a lot about salt build up in the root mass, but never on the leaves. I have never foliar fed them so it can't be due to that.
I am baffled.
I did a pot flush on the plant a few weeks ago when it looked like i was suffering from a deficiency. I suspect this may have been caused by a layer of sand I had on top of the soil. This was due to a bug problem I had with the flies laying there eggs in the soil. the sand did the trick and stopped the breeding cycle. However, I did some more reading and found that a layer of top sand can scrub the water of a lot of nutrients that it held before reaching the soil. This would make sense as to what I saw as, there was a calcium/salt layer forming on top of the sand. Anyway when I flushed the plant, I also removed the sand and replaced it with fresh soil. this was weeks ago.
Now I have this salty formation on some of the upper leaves.

Sorry was not such a quick question after all...


Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 31 October 2012 at 16:19
Ok, I said salt, am having a change of heart.
I started feeding them with 5ltr spring water from my local super market. I just checked and there seems to be 25mg/ltr of Bicarbonate of soda in the water. Would this travel through the plant and be ex foliated on the leaf mater???


Posted By: alsc
Date Posted: 01 November 2012 at 14:29
strange! i don't have a clue of what could have caused it also because we could use a photo to judge this problem.
why are you using spring water?
that's a lot of bicarbonate of soda...

good luck with this man.
best, al.


Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 01 November 2012 at 16:54
Hi alsc, Thaks for having a look. I thought natural spring water (as it's sold) would be better with regards to minerals and less chemicals used to clean in. maybe not, I have gone back to tap water thats been left outdoors for a few days.
I will try and get some pictures tonight..


Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 02 November 2012 at 17:00
Here is the crystalline formation I was talking about above. Sorry the pictures are not the best, I hope for a camera upgrade soon





The buds seem too be forming ok. They are in there last week of flowering. Then I hope too have the NL#5xH about ready to fill the void.






And here are my newest babies. So far doing OK, 1 of the stems looks quite spindly compared too the other, but I am not worrying about it just yet.





Posted By: alsc
Date Posted: 02 November 2012 at 17:15
ok, that is strange.
looks like water from misting or something like that... you haven't been misting, have you?
if you are sure this salty spots have been exfoliated, i don't really know what it could be, i have never seen this. sorry man!

bud the buds are nice and sweet!


Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 02 November 2012 at 17:33
Hi alsc, No, the plants have never been misted. The more I think about it I think it tasted like bicarb, I assume from the spring water. oh well, Tap water from here.
I should try Hydro as I have an reverse Osmosis unit for the marine tank!!


Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 18:47
The babies at a few weeks...




Does anyone have any ideas on recommended pot size for soil. I used 10ltr in the past, but I feel that may have been too big..


Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 15 November 2012 at 18:51


Posted By: coverking
Date Posted: 17 November 2012 at 11:32
all very productive well done

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Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 17 November 2012 at 23:21
Thanks coverking, I hope it all works out ok. Can I ssk? Would you have air movement on seedlings this young?

Have a great weekend!!


Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 22 November 2012 at 13:41
well I have read a lot about this strain stretching like crazy when put into flower, even when flowered from seedlings.
However after reading Lahori-Munda's posts and seeing the results I am unsure. Does anyone have experiece of this strain.

Is this too young?





Posted By: Lahori-Munda
Date Posted: 24 November 2012 at 18:40
@abbmacher
Nice plants man. My Nlxhaze did not grow tall but it gave the most dense buds. None of my NLxhaze went above 1.5 ft but it gave more bud than my tall Jackflash and g13z. Just make be careful about humidity and ventilation. One of my NLZhaze got bud rot on top of the bud. I chopped that part off. Buds will be dense so be extra carefull. You will love the taste and high.


Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 27 November 2012 at 13:53
The seedlings are going well.
the first pis is of my already favourite plant. I cant belive the growth from its lower nodes already and the thickness of the main stem and side branches.







Posted By: mellow
Date Posted: 27 November 2012 at 16:12
Nice looking babies :).

IMO I'd veg the NL's the same as the SS's.

If the plants in the last pic are the NL's then defo give them a veg cause they got the indica vibe.


Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 27 November 2012 at 17:35
Hi Mellow, The plants are all NL#5 x haze, I meant as as in Sensi seeds. So can I ask your opinion on veg time. I was thinking a few more weeks till about 30cm in height.
What are your thoughts?


Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 27 November 2012 at 17:38
And they are supposed too be 70% sativa. But looking at Lahori-Munda's growth results with regards to height. Who knows lol???


Posted By: mellow
Date Posted: 27 November 2012 at 23:31
Hey,

I grew some Sour Diesels that were meant to be 80% sativa and they were big old stocky plants, so it's not always the case.

I'm not sure how breeders judge the % of the plants, if a plant has buds, high etc of a sativa but grows like an indica they might say its a sativa leaner cause the effect you get is cerebral high? Anyway stoned waffling over :).

When I grow grow a 10 pack of the same strain, flip them at 45cm you'll get some that are giants and some that barely reach 1 meter, so it's best to judge the plant rather than thinking things are set in stone.

How long to veg or what height you flip the light should depend on your grow set up. I have 6 plants under 1 600w HPS in a 1.2x1.2m space. I always thought i vegged to 30cm's, but it's defo more like 40/45 cm's.



Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 13 December 2012 at 13:42
hmm well the plants seem to have slowed right down with regards to stretching and I am not sure why. both plants were topped twice.
The first looks very healthy a nice green and quite stocky and bushy. The stems seem very thick compared too all other strains I have grown. I guess (hope) it is in preparation for monster colas...
it stands about 11" in height.




This one is a little pale. I put it down to a nitro deff, so have been giving it weak nutes. Same soil, same light, same water. Maybe just a weaker plant
It stands about 10" tall




the plant will be going in when this White Russian comes out in a few days I think. Most of the fan leaves have yellowed due to drawing in the nitrogen from them and its on probably its last plain watering today.



Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 09 January 2013 at 13:23
Hi guys and gals, I hope you all had a great Christmas and new year. Mine was quite sedate as most of my family were in Australia.

day 26 of Northern lights 12/12

the top two plants were topped twice ie, 1st time to split the main stem. then once again on the new stems with the aim of trying to promote at least 4 stems. So far it seem to be producing a nice shaped plant and has also kept the height down. i was expecting more stretching. they have stretched an extra 4 inches since going into the flower phase.





This one was germinated after the top two and is still in vegetative growth. it has been topped once and I will leave it at t hat to compare growth rates.



this is an experiment I tried. I cloned a White Russian that was at about 21 days 12/12. The clone did take a bit longer to set it's roots.
if you look at the base of the plant you can clearly see the bud that was taken into clone. Once the roots set the plant stretched a single stem vertically and then split into multiple stems. very much like a topped plant. It wasn't!!!!



Here is the 12/12 room as it stands. the two plants at the back will be removed in a few weeks.



Posted By: sarah louise
Date Posted: 11 January 2013 at 04:22
Lovely buds Abbmacher... would be nice to see a few shots of them with the hps. The nl#5xhaze might not have stretched much yet, but it should continue to gain in size as flowering continues. Unlike indica doms which tend to stretch at the beginning of flower and then stop gaining height. Granted, with the topping I doubt the plant will get to a problematic size.

All the best for the rest of flowering. sara.


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Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 11 January 2013 at 12:02
Hi Sarah, thanks for taking a look. Could you offer me some advice.

The lower leaves are yellowing quite heavily. I know this is normal in late flowering as the plant draws nitrogen in from the leaves. I am sure this is happening a bit early. The leaves about half way up have yellowed fully. It is strange as all the other strains I have grown in the same soil were fine.
Should I just add nitrogen rich ferts? I have tried some with little to no difference!


Posted By: sarah louise
Date Posted: 12 January 2013 at 04:04
If they are yellowing from the bottom upwards, then yes, they need some nitrogen. Plants use a lot of nitrogen in the first 2-3 weeks of flowering while they are gaining height quickly. The leaves that have already yellowed wont return to green but extra nitrogen should stop the condition from progressing up the plant.

All the best, sara


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Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 24 January 2013 at 14:58
Hi Sarah. Many thanks for the Help. I sourced some high nitro, organic tonic. Unfortunately it took a while to reach me.




I gave the two yellow plants a 1-10 ratio feed last week and a 1-30 yesterday. Unfortunately I think the damage is done. The bud leaf seems OK and dark green, but most of the older fan leaves are very yellow.

Plant number 1.

I also dropped a power lead onto this one last night. One whole stem snapped off and was being held on by the skin of the stem. The break was clean so I bound it up to meet the main stem and today it seems fine. I feel like and idiot!! Time will tell if it lasts or turns hermie on me.








Plant 2







This was my last seed. I went into flower about a week ago, so I have given it the same two nitrogen feeds and so far no yellowing to speak of..



Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 30 January 2013 at 12:20
Nitrogen starved mothers!



2 weeks into flower



Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 12 February 2013 at 16:49
Both with a few weeks left too go



Plant 1 NL x 5 haze







Plant 2 NL x 5 Haze






The next generation 4 weeks into 12/12. Looking much better than the last 2 did due too getting a good nitrogen dose at about cycle swap.







Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 20 February 2013 at 12:04
Hmmm,   Does anyone think these are ready to come down yet? they are about 10 week into flowering.











Here is the last one at about 5 weeks into 12/12





Posted By: alecky
Date Posted: 20 February 2013 at 19:19
Lovely plants abbmacher, i wish I was about to harvest those! They do look ready but it's also hard to tell with the hps light on them. I read above where Sarah Louise said it would be nice to see them with the hps, but I'd be almost sure she meant 'without' rather than 'with'.

Often sativa heavy strains will keep pushing out fresh white pistils on the buds closet to the lights so you should take the look of the whole plant as a guide when to chop. If around 75% of the pistils on the entire plant have died back I would harvest them. Some folk use the colour of the trich heads to decide when to harvest.

If u can post a couple of bud shots out of the flower room and without any hps light it will help to see how done they are!

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Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 21 February 2013 at 16:41
Many thanks Alecky, I will try to get a few later. I did have a close up of a trics last night and most were cloudy with very few amber!


Posted By: sarah louise
Date Posted: 22 February 2013 at 11:11
lol yes I did mean without the hps.

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Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 22 February 2013 at 11:37












Posted By: alecky
Date Posted: 22 February 2013 at 12:47
Oh yeah baby now your talking!!!! %3chumbs%20Up Beautiful buds and beautiful pictures abbmacher, a job very well done. They look ready to me,id give them a few days flush then get the chainsaw out.Enjoy your harvest!%3coving%20it


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Posted By: alecky
Date Posted: 22 February 2013 at 13:01
Hi sarah, i knew what you meant,but after 10yrs i still cant work out what the missus is saying means....


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Posted By: 1966
Date Posted: 23 February 2013 at 15:22
They look really nice abb's
Am thinking about what to grow after the ones i have on the go at the minute.
Its a toss up between NL#5 OR pure power plant.
Lets us know how you get on yield wise if you would please.
Well done and enjoy those biftas.
Have a good day

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Posted By: sarah louise
Date Posted: 24 February 2013 at 04:36
Originally posted by alecky

Hi sarah, i knew what you meant,but after 10yrs i still cant work out what the missus is saying means....


I know the feeling...


Buds look swish abbmacher... definitely approaching the finish line. %3chumbs%20Up


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Posted By: RiffsAndSpliffs
Date Posted: 26 February 2013 at 20:25
Absolutely beautiful plants and pictures! Very impressed.


Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 27 February 2013 at 10:56
Hi Guys, many thanks for all your lovely comments.
1966. The yield was not as good as it could have been. 3oz in total. I think that would have been quite a bit higher if I didn't have a nitrogen deficiency when they started flowering. The last one that is still in flower had a good dose of N at the start of flowering and seems to be budding up like crazy. I think it might equal the total yield from both previous.
Generally a nice plant to grow. The smell is very very strong. even in late vegetative growth So beware and take the necessary precautions.
The smoke is full of flavour and hits me very quickly and hard. having said that I am a lightweight.

I was also considering PPP as a next grow but have gone for a strain called Think Different.. look it up and see what you think!


Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 27 February 2013 at 15:44
My improvised drying box seemed to work well. great airflow, in the dark and no stink!





About 4 weeks left to go on the last one!

Is that a bit of heat stress on the top leaves? The edges look like a wood saw blade





Posted By: Yaelandar
Date Posted: 23 July 2013 at 17:40
Hi Abbmacher,

Sweet Weed, sweet weed ;)

Enjoy !


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Posted By: abbmacher
Date Posted: 29 October 2014 at 14:52
Originally posted by Yaelandar

Hi Abbmacher,Sweet Weed, sweet weed ;)Enjoy !

Many thanks, I am back to try them in DWC!



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