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    Posted: 23 July 2014 at 22:35
I brought this story up again to support the coversation of today in an other thread for ... girard..
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  Quote Schwarzenegger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 July 2013 at 12:14
good going! I am really interested in the end results of a " 24/24/0/0" setup
it demands some serious dedication to be growing that style Martini!

Not everyone has the discipline to switch the plants twice a day
if it works out you might have a nice little batch of high end product to see you through the cold dark winter..


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  Quote martiniGR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 July 2013 at 11:14
i found out (again) the white hairs are longer than under Hps and the color is nice orange instead of brown, so there are some differences under led, plants start to be ready, i have 2 bakardys at the moment under 50 watts each, 44 red and 6 blue.
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  Quote martiniGR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 July 2013 at 14:41
i have 2 new photoos of a bud  35 days led only, its in the cannabisphoto section because i cant reduce size not enough for the forum. look it is already loaded with thc.. lots imo
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  Quote martiniGR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 November 2012 at 14:39
Hi Chris, i have now 3 strains, white gold, martini haze and a new bakardy haze (Martini haze x white gold)
i had 3 new plants, 1 with a good taste and 2 with a not good taste all from my crossing with the mh and wg.
takes 6 months work..
i have all equipment new and doing small with 5 plants.
hope for a warm winter, less heatcosts. i have a digital ballast 225 watt/275/400/ 440 no relay anymore, i have 24/24 lights on and i work with an extra dark room.
not much news..
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  Quote martiniGR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 November 2012 at 15:06
i think the plant had no roots enough when the plants started to grow under the lights.
take a week for rooting
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  Quote martiniGR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 November 2012 at 15:04
hi ak50!
IHAd the problem, the cause was to much water so the plant makes no roots in that case.
i would say less water and let it dry out a bit,wait until the plant improves and start feeding again.
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  Quote ak50 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 November 2012 at 22:55
Hi LED growers.... need some advise ...
could you look into here ? and tell me if you heared about this before?
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  Quote mellow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 September 2012 at 11:53
Hey Martini,

Hope you are well :).

You moved to germany now? or still throwing curve balls.
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  Quote martiniGR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 September 2012 at 11:19
btw there is another new light system named PLASMA light, the researchers and developers look at the wrong way, they try to imitate sunlight , that is not a real goal to work towards to, it is the wants of the plant what should be the goal..
the plasma gives from blue to red almost the same quantity of light but the plant needs blue and red most, then orange and a little of the others...
but that is an other discussion.. the same as the discussion about coffeeshops and growshops, THE CUSTOMER is the boss, not the boss!
If they would under stand that i would not be here but on the bahamas or with ben and ed in thailand...%3cnhappy
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i had the best suppliers in the world, but again that is not the goal... its a tool.
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  Quote martiniGR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2012 at 14:49
Hi obsessive, you are right it is the same thing as the vinyl and cd!! thats how it is! in futere it will be better but for now you need many colors of leds lijk blue, red ,orange and the rest ( which are less important but still a little important, only green is not used by the plants for as far as i know)
 
I discovered something else:
my ufos were bought as 10 blue and 40 red ones, in reality it is 6 blue and 44 red!!
kill the supplier%3chumbs%20Up
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  Quote obsessive Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 September 2012 at 22:31
If i understand the debate correctly the sun is not digital. Its a bit like the old debate between vinyl and cd. The LED light is constant and fixed. I have been using blue cfl's for first 4 weeks to get leaf development before using dual specrum HPS for rest of life. This brings in a similar cost saving of about 20% over 600 hps from the beginning. The capital cost of an LED system is prohibitive for personal use model. It seems we will have to stockpile bulbs lol for some time.
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  Quote martiniGR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 August 2012 at 14:51
the problem with leds is they have a single frequency, so blue is only 450 not f.e. 400 -500. so it means you need lots of different leds frequencies to fill the gaps between 450 and 660. so thats why its better to have an hps extra to fill these gaps.
but in the situation today here, 30 celcius or more it is a good alternative for a few hot days. with a hps only it is muuuuch to hot now, it would kill the plants with this heat.. it was last days 33 celcius.
 as a only light source the led 450+660 is not enough, even with a few extra leds like orange, and other colours, you will still have gaps the plants need a full spectrum!
 
example picture, i have in the middle between 2 led ufos 1 tubelight led, 4500 K(?) bluewhite, for my eyes and to have more room -space for the plants, its an old picture of a burned plant its now flowering in my garden and will give 1-5 grams only..%3cisapprove%3ctern%20%3cmile
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  Quote martiniGR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 June 2012 at 11:32
ok back online again and i have some results:
Last months i grew a few plants with a different harvest date, this ment that at the last 4 weeks ,i had 2 plants in 11 liter,
difficult in english , the situation was 2 plants filling all the space under the 400 watts hps, so i switched off the extra Leds, the result is LESS SOLID BUDS, a good yield nut the buds are not solid. Under the leds the buds get more solid, this is an interesting situation,
if you want to earn money, grow under hps if you want to win a cup use at least some extra leds.. what will happen in the future?
If the led price goes down there will be a moment that it is affordable to grow under leds, maybe the electricity use will rise growing under 1000 watts led instead of 400 watts hps, if you harvest a better weed ,then others have to follow, i find it a nice subject, leds, smoking thinking how future will be..
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  Quote dylmadness Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 February 2012 at 21:43
If what i'm hearing is true then that is bad....i was hoping that when i finally get a steady source of power from a water turbine, that may not happen for a few years yet, that the HPS's would come out of their boxes have the dust blown off, and that the indoor fields would be fat once again. But the LED industry is there as the light at the end of the tunnel, excuse the punn.
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