honey instead of molasses?

hi all

Honey doesn't stay dissolved in water, it settles out solution, this might present a problem if you were using honey regularly. Mollases stays dissolved and has a swag of trace elements. If you don't want the trace elements I would suggest using one of the less refined sugar based on the shelves, eg brown sugars, which still contain some mollases, between 3.5% for light brown or raw sugar and 6.5% for a dark brown sugar (like muscovardo) but have low mineral content.  

Unlike honey, these will stay in solution once dissolved.

Honey is great for dipping clones when you run out of rooting hormone, especially mixed with a little dissolved yeast extract like vegemite

sara

I used it under the belief that it assisted rooting, based on local garden lore rather than science though. On the farm I played around with a lot of "natural" products, it was easy to maintain the organic certification for the market garden by not having non specified inputs around the house garden.

I have some foliage in the fridge, I might go pull them out and do one in honey and the other in standard 4% indole butric acid and see if we have a difference.

Make sure you use unprocessed honey. How you tell or what the difference is, i got no idea, but thats what i read :)

Hi,

sometimes organics are better, as with syrup of sugar beets: The minerally fertilized stuff tastes nastily bitter while the elitistically organic stuff tastes nice -- and costs thrice as much. Sometimes the place of origin makes the difference: I bought Russian mustard power, and the mustard made from it is much hotter than usual "hot" mustard but like strong fresh horseradish. The Klitshko effect.

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Uli

so guys a cup of tea? honeys from the world and cannabis too!
our knowledge is big but our unknowledge is bigger! so lets try and learn... sugar peace for alls

There is a kernal of truth in 'honey from the shop doesn't work'. Some of the cheap stuff labelled 'honey' is a blend of a low grade, darker coloured honey and glucose syrup. Check the label, if it says glucose and honey, forget it it's only got enough honey in it to improve the colour and impart a little flavour.

Commercial production is geared towards producing pale coloured honey, the paler the colour the higher the price because it's more versatile and can be mixed with a liberal amount of darker honeys and still stay within the preferred colour range.

Odd thing about honey, the commercial industry is driven by consumer preference for light coloured and flavoured honey. Yet, in the local hf store dark coloured honeys reign supreme as 'unrefined', lol the cheapest honey on the wholesale market sells for the highest possible retail price to the gullible.

Mesrin, we used to feed our bees sugar at the end of the season, after removing what honey we wanted to the year, to maintain hive strength. It was a good spot for eucalypt honey production and we used to rent ground space to a commercial apiarist who oversaw our novice attempts with hives and helped with harvesting.

The harvesting device is called a centrifuge, commonly here it's referred to as a 'swinger' ie it swings the honey out of the comb.

Originally posted by Proteus Basicly he just got a big jar stuffed a great lump of comb into it. Was unlike anything you will get in a shop. I dont know what exactly they do to honey to process it but i imagine at least it filtered to remove wax, who knows what else is taken out.

Consider yourself very lucky, honey is usually drained from the comb and the combs given back to the bees to reclaim the remaining honey and then either renovated to put back in the hive or saved for later sale. Pure beeswax is as valuable as good honey.

Some apiarists will prepare a small amount of honey as you described, from an economic perspective it's both wasteful and time consuming, but it makes very nice thank you gifts and is a hot seller at 'county produce' markets.

I suppose I had better get on with the clones, one in indole butric, one in honey (from the supermarket) and one with nothing but tap water as a control.

Yeah I like eating it in the comb, end up with a wax coating on the teeth though.